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	<title>Comments on: Jython on Google AppEngine: Why bother?</title>
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		<title>By: Muhammad Alkarouri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muhammad Alkarouri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came across this post as I was searching about jython on appengine. The reason I was looking is that I have come across a Clojure bot for google wave (http://markfayngersh.com/post/333326632/clojure-bot-is-a-google-wave-robot-that-evaluates) hosted in appengine. And as far as I can see, this is not possible in CPython but it would probably be possible in Jython.
In short, any cases which need a sandbox would prefer jython.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came across this post as I was searching about jython on appengine. The reason I was looking is that I have come across a Clojure bot for google wave (<a href="http://markfayngersh.com/post/333326632/clojure-bot-is-a-google-wave-robot-that-evaluates" rel="nofollow">http://markfayngersh.com/post/333326632/clojure-bot-is-a-google-wave-robot-that-evaluates</a>) hosted in appengine. And as far as I can see, this is not possible in CPython but it would probably be possible in Jython.<br />
In short, any cases which need a sandbox would prefer jython.</p>
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		<title>By: alan.kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan.kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[Nick]
&gt; I&#039;m sure an article on how to write a basic webapp in Jython 
&gt; on App Engine would be very well received – as would further 
&gt; practical examples of using the two together.

Challenge accepted: See my latest post, which explains how jython can do something on Google AppEngine that cpython cannot do: XSLT transforms.

Transforming with XSLT on Google AppEngine and jython.
http://jython.xhaus.com/transforming-with-xslt-on-google-appengine-and-jython/

I&#039;m looking forward to seeing anyone doing the same with cpython on AppEngine ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Nick]<br />
> I&#8217;m sure an article on how to write a basic webapp in Jython<br />
> on App Engine would be very well received – as would further<br />
> practical examples of using the two together.</p>
<p>Challenge accepted: See my latest post, which explains how jython can do something on Google AppEngine that cpython cannot do: XSLT transforms.</p>
<p>Transforming with XSLT on Google AppEngine and jython.<br />
<a href="http://jython.xhaus.com/transforming-with-xslt-on-google-appengine-and-jython/" rel="nofollow">http://jython.xhaus.com/transforming-with-xslt-on-google-appengine-and-jython/</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to seeing anyone doing the same with cpython on AppEngine <img src='http://jython.xhaus.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nick Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alan,

I think you&#039;re misconstruing my comments at the event. While I can&#039;t recall how I phrased it exactly, the gist of what I intended to say was that while it was possible to run Jython on App Engine, I couldn&#039;t think why you&#039;d want to. I didn&#039;t mean to imply that I was certain it wasn&#039;t ever useful.

The use-case I described after the talk was one I&#039;d encountered where a user wanted to port his Python app to Java (or vice-versa) progressively, without interrupting service - not a case of prototyping, but rather migration.

I also think your example of cryptography libraries for library support is perhaps not the best one: It&#039;s especially important in cryptography not to have a profusion of libraries, but rather to have at least one really good one. KeyCzar (http://www.keyczar.org/) is, in my opinion at least, an example of such a library - and it&#039;s available natively for both Python and Java.

Please don&#039;t take these corrections as criticism of the concept of Jython on App Engine, though. I love to see novel uses of App Engine and of programming languages in general. I&#039;m sure an article on how to write a basic webapp in Jython on App Engine would be very well received - as would further practical examples of using the two together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alan,</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re misconstruing my comments at the event. While I can&#8217;t recall how I phrased it exactly, the gist of what I intended to say was that while it was possible to run Jython on App Engine, I couldn&#8217;t think why you&#8217;d want to. I didn&#8217;t mean to imply that I was certain it wasn&#8217;t ever useful.</p>
<p>The use-case I described after the talk was one I&#8217;d encountered where a user wanted to port his Python app to Java (or vice-versa) progressively, without interrupting service &#8211; not a case of prototyping, but rather migration.</p>
<p>I also think your example of cryptography libraries for library support is perhaps not the best one: It&#8217;s especially important in cryptography not to have a profusion of libraries, but rather to have at least one really good one. KeyCzar (<a href="http://www.keyczar.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.keyczar.org/</a>) is, in my opinion at least, an example of such a library &#8211; and it&#8217;s available natively for both Python and Java.</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t take these corrections as criticism of the concept of Jython on App Engine, though. I love to see novel uses of App Engine and of programming languages in general. I&#8217;m sure an article on how to write a basic webapp in Jython on App Engine would be very well received &#8211; as would further practical examples of using the two together.</p>
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